The SCE meter never averages above 18 kW in any 15 minutes. One box does the limiting. No staff rules, no sauna lockout. Do the steps in order and tap the circle when one is done.
StartMon Sep 8
Steps10
Orders this weekEyedro $349 · 9388B on quote
Greg iscc on everything
🆕 Your questions, answered · Sep 9
What are we pulling off the seven AC nameplates? Some are faded.
Six fields, in this order of importance: model number, volts (208/230 or 460), phase (1 or 3), RLA (compressor rated load amps), MCA (minimum circuit ampacity), MOCP (max breaker size). Model plus RLA gives the running kW of each unit; phase decides which controller Brayden ships; MCA and MOCP tell the electrician what relay and wire to bring.
Faded plate: get the model number alone and we look up the rest from the manufacturer sheet. If the model is gone too, open the access panel: the compressor inside has its own sticker with RLA and LRA, and the serial plate is often on the inside of the door. A photo of any one of those is enough.
If I photograph the seven breakers instead, does that do it?
Partly, and please do it anyway. A breaker photo tells us three things the nameplates cannot: which panel and meter each unit is on, the phase (2-pole handle = 240 V single-phase, 3-pole = 3-phase), and the circuit size. That settles the meter-mapping question, which is the bigger unknown right now.
What a breaker cannot tell us is running kW. A 30 A breaker can feed a unit that draws 11 A. So breakers answer "where and what phase," nameplates answer "how many kW." We need both. Shoot each breaker with the directory card in frame so the label is readable.
What do you want from the Tesla Wall Connector label?
Four things: the generation (Gen 3 is white glass with one LED bar; Gen 2 is silver or black with an LED ring), the part number, the max output amps, and the Wi-Fi name and password or QR code printed on it. The Wi-Fi details are what let us set the 12 A cap in step 1 on a Gen 3. Then one more photo: the breaker that feeds it, handle and amp rating readable, because the electrician sizes the contactor from that number.
"Breaker label" for the LED wall, is that the specific breaker it is on?
Yes. Find the breaker or breakers that trip when the wall goes dark. Photograph the handle so the amp rating and pole count are readable, and the directory card entry next to it. Note which panel it lives in. We are checking whether the wall sits on the controlled meter and how big a contactor it would take if the two-week Eyedro read says it has to become a shed load.
What is the LED wall "power feed"?
The wires that bring power to the wall's power supplies. The 49 cabinets run off several PSUs, and we need to know how they are fed: does the wall plug into ordinary 120 V outlets (how many, and which circuits), or does it have a dedicated circuit or distro box? Photograph the cords where they leave the wall and where they plug in. That tells us how many circuits it spans and whether one contactor can control it or several would be needed. It is the largest load in the building we cannot switch yet, which is why it matters.
One rule for messages. Talk to the vendor or electrician directly. Put greg@weebid.app in cc on every email and post texts in the electrical thread. Greg reads along; he is not the mailbox.
Brayden Automation (makes the Energy Sentry 9388B)
970-461-9600 · sales@brayden.com. Brayden's site now routes Energy Sentry sales to Interactive Energy Systems, 833-766-8005; ask who quotes the commercial 9388B and use whichever answers.
Cap the Tesla Wall Connector at 12 A (2.8 kW) in its own settings
Every SCE window over 20 kW in 2025 lined up with the car charging at 48 A. The cap inside the Wall Connector holds for every car and every driver. It is a setting, not a guarantee, so the electrician also puts a contactor (a heavy switch the controller can open) on the Tesla circuit on install day (step 7) and the controller sheds it first.
Talk toNobody for Gen 3. Farzad for Gen 2.Post the result in the electrical thread.
Which unit: Gen 3 has a white glass face and one LED bar; set it in software below. Gen 2 is older, silver or black, with an LED ring; a rotary dial inside the cover sets the amps, breaker off first, so Farzad does it. Rotary switch position 1 gives 12 A output on a 15 A breaker (Gen 2 manual, page 21).
Gen 3, step A: hold the button on the charge handle 5 seconds until the LED pulses green. The unit broadcasts Wi-Fi for 15 minutes. No network? Flip its breaker off and on.
Step B: phone cellular data off, join the Wi-Fi named TeslaWallConnector_xxxxxx. Password is on the Quick Start Guide sticker and on the unit's label. No sticker? Scan the QR on the unit.
Step C: open http://192.168.92.1. If it never loads, use the Tesla One app: Tesla Device Setup, scan the same QR, Join.
Step D: Installation settings, Breaker Size: choose 15 A. That caps output at 12 A, which is 2.8 kW. Save. Only move to 20 A (16 A, 3.8 kW) if Greg says 12 A is too slow.
Tape a label on the unit: "Capped at 12 A. Do not change."
A car is charging and its screen shows 12 A, about 2.8 kW. Photo of the screen and of the label posted in the electrical thread.
Phase 2 · This week
Order the controller, book the install
Photos, one call, three emails, two quote requests, about 4 hours
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Photograph what Brayden and the electricians need
Brayden sizes the controller from the service. The electricians price the job from the panel. The same photo set goes to all of them, so shoot it once.
Talk toVictor, in the electrical thread, for the rooftop nameplatesGreg, Miles, Ari are already in it.
Both SCE meter faces, account number visible.
The main panel with the cover on, and its directory card. It is a Zinsco; the electricians will ask.
The main breaker, so its amp rating is readable. It decides the Eyedro sensor size.
The sauna heater plate (kW, volts, phase), the Tesla Wall Connector label, and the breaker that feeds the Tesla. The 60 A figure is inferred from the 11.3 kW charging peak, so the electrician sizes the contactor from what the breaker actually says.
The LED wall power feed and its breaker label. It may become a controlled load if the two-week Eyedro read says so.
All seven rooftop AC nameplates. Victor said on 9/2 he would come check the phases; if that visit has not happened, ask him in the thread to shoot the plates on it and post them there.
Post in the thread
"Victor, when you come by to check the phases can you shoot the nameplate on each of the seven rooftop units and post them here? We are putting in a demand controller and the electricians need model, volts, and phase for each one."
All photos are in one album on your phone and the AC nameplates are in the thread.
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Call Brayden Automation, then email the photos and get the 9388B quoted
This is the box that makes 20 kW impossible. Lead time is per Brayden's quote (a pre-quote estimate was 4 to 8 weeks), so the order goes in this week. Brayden does not publish prices; they quote from your load list.
Talk toBrayden Automation, 970-461-9600, sales@brayden.comcc greg@weebid.app on the email.
Say this on the call
"Commercial building in Santa Monica, SCE territory, 15-minute demand window. We need to hold 18 kW. Nine loads to shed: a Tesla Wall Connector, one sauna heater, and seven rooftop AC units, so we need the relay expansion to 10 outputs. I am emailing you the meter face and panel photos so you can confirm single or 3-phase and the model. Please quote the 9388B with the outdoor enclosure, the alarm option, WireLynx if the roof needs it, a CT set sized to the main (200 A standard, 400 A if the service is 400), and Wye or Delta if 3-phase. Your site says Energy Sentry now goes through Interactive Energy Systems. Do you still quote the commercial 9388B, or do I call them? What is the lead time, and who installs in Los Angeles?"
Then send the email below with the photo set attached. Brayden's answer on single vs 3-phase settles the model. Farzad said on 9/4 that the sauna is the only 3-phase load; let Brayden confirm from the meter photo.
Ask who they have installed with in LA. If they name someone, that installer goes on the quote list in step 5.
The quote must list: 9388B (model per phase), relay expansion to 10 outputs, alarm option, outdoor enclosure if it mounts outside, WireLynx if the roof pull is ugly, a CT set sized to the main (200 A standard, 400 A if the service is 400), and Wye or Delta if 3-phase.
The quote lists 10 outputs and the alarm, it is in your inbox with Greg in cc, Greg replies "approved" on that thread and names the card, and the order is placed. Invoice to greg@weebid.app.
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Order one Eyedro 3-phase meter, $349, and have it fitted on the quote visit
The Eyedro is the proof that the SCE meter agrees, and the alert that emails you before the controller has to act. It also has to run for two weeks before install day: the loads the controller cannot switch (LED wall, light rig, kitchen, gear) add up to somewhere between 6 and 24 kW, and nobody has measured it. If that floor peaks above about 13 kW, the LED wall gets a contactor too. Two weeks of data settles it.
Talk toOnline order, once the main-breaker photo from step 2 is in the album. Farzad, or whichever electrician quotes first, fits it on their quote visit.Order under taji@therecording.club so you own the MyEyedro login. Forward the confirmation to greg@weebid.app. Pay with the TRC card; if you do not have it, ask in the electrical thread. Ship to 1660 9th St.
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Eyedro EB6-EW-E3 3-phase meter with 200 A sensors (400 A sensor set instead if the main breaker photo says 400; the 400 A sensor set is priced separately on the Eyedro site, check before ordering)
The Eyedro is clamped on the mains of the SCE service account for the site (the account number is on the meter face), the app shows live kW, and the install date is at least two weeks out.
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Get two written quotes from site visits, book the install
The controller lands in the main service panel and pulls control wiring to seven condensers, a sauna contactor and a Tesla contactor. That is licensed C-10 work with a permit. Two quotes set the price, and one of them may refuse the Zinsco panel.
Talk toFarzad first, then RG Electric, then OptimumGreg in cc on every quote email, in the text with Farzad.
Ask each electrician to quote from a site visit, not from photos. Whoever comes first fits the Eyedro and writes the meter map on that visit (a paid visit, see the scope sheet).
Send the scope sheet with every quote request: electrician.html. It carries the nine loads, the settings, the safeguards and the acceptance test, so every quote prices the same job.
On the quote visit, two things get done: the Eyedro goes on the mains (step 4 on your list), and the electrician writes down which meter feeds each of the nine loads. There are two SCE meters here and nobody has mapped them. A relay on a load fed from the other meter sheds nothing the bill sees.
Farzad, 310-628-8818. He has worked in these panels (his crew ran the neutral to the outdoor panel, Nov 2025). Ask whether he holds a C-10 or which C-10 he subs to, and for a written quote on the scope below. Text him with Greg in the thread.
RG Electric, 323-521-5131. Commercial LA, C-10 #910807. Call, then send the scope email.
Optimum Energy Services. C-10 #1003962, all commercial. Request the quote through their LA page.
Anyone Brayden named in step 3.
Ask each one in writing: "Will you work in the Zinsco panel?" and "What is your license number?" Look the number up on the CSLB page before booking: status must say Active and the classification list must include C-10.
Book the one visit for the week the 9388B lands. Victor must be on site the same day; the control wiring terminates inside his condensers.
Text Farzad
"Hey Farzad, Taji from TRC. We are putting in an Energy Sentry demand controller at the main panel to hold the building under 18 kW. It needs a C-10 for the panel work and a permit. Do you hold a C-10 or sub to one? Scope and photos coming by email, want a written quote if you can do it. Greg is on this thread."
Two written quotes with license numbers are in your inbox with Greg in cc, one is booked, Victor has the same date.
Phase 3 · Install day · dated from Brayden's ship date (estimate Oct 6 to Nov 3)
Install day
C-10 electrician. Pre-quote estimate $6,000 to 10,000 before the Tesla contactor, expansion and meter map were added; the quotes set the number.
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Write the shed order with Miles and Ari, send it to the electrician and Brayden
The controller cuts the lowest priority first and brings it back within minutes. Nothing is ever off for long. The order has to reflect which rooms matter most, and Miles and Ari know the room usage.
Talk toMiles and Ari for the list; the booked electrician and Brayden get the resultGreg in cc. He can reorder it by replying.
Priority 1 = Tesla (nobody notices a paused charge; the electrician enters it as 9388B priority 10, the box counts backwards). 2 = sauna (recovers fastest). 3 = the LED wall, only if the two-week Eyedro read put the uncontrolled floor above about 13 kW. Then the seven ACs from the least-used room to the most-used, using the room names on the roof panel directory. If the wall is out, delete line 3 and renumber so the main studio is 9.
Before the list is final, Greg pulls Green Button data for around Jul 28 2026 (the unexplained 20.8 kW window) so the load that caused it is on the list. Ask him for it in the thread.
Email the numbered list of 9 (or 10 with the wall) to the electrician and to Brayden. Same email, Greg cc. It becomes the relay wiring order on install day.
The numbered list is in the electrician's and Brayden's inboxes with Greg in cc, the cause around Jul 28 is on it, and nobody has replied with a change for 48 hours.
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Install day: the electrician wires it, Victor is on the roof, you watch the settings go in
On siteThe C-10 crew, Victor, youPost start, finish, and the display photo in the electrical thread.
Settings: limit 18 kW (or 17.6, the step below 18, if the full scale is 80 kW), averaging 15 min, algorithm dC = 1 (the setting name on the box's display), min-off 4 to 6 min per compressor size, alarm on. Print the scope sheet; the settings table and the acceptance checklist are on it.
Run the acceptance checklist on the scope sheet with the electrician: forced shed, power-fail test (everything still runs with the controller off), alarm test, labels, lock. Sign it. No final payment before it passes.
The sauna stays usable. The box only pauses it for a few minutes when the average nears 18, then turns it back on.
Ask the electrician to shed one AC on purpose while you watch the Eyedro app. The kW should drop.
Then the Tesla test: with a car charging, force a shed. The Wall Connector goes dark first and the Eyedro drops by the charge. It comes back once the average has room, after the ACs; a paused charge is the point.
Lock the box. Only you and the electrician touch the settings. Photo of the display reading the set limit (18.0 or 17.6) goes in the thread.
MyEyedro web app: Alerts, New Alert, type Demand Threshold Average, greater than 16000 (the threshold is in watts), duration 15 min, email addresses as above. Needs the Pro license on this device. Log in with the taji@therecording.club account from step 4.
Phase 4 · Two clean weeks after install (estimate Oct 20 to Nov 17)
Prove it, then Greg files
10 minutes a week
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Every Monday: screenshot MyEyedro, Demand, Last 7 days, and post it in the electrical thread
Greg files the SCE change-of-use form (PCOC, Form 14-548) only after two clean weeks with nothing over 18 and after the Green Button pull for around Jul 28 2026 explains the last 20.8 kW window. The screenshots are his evidence.
Talk toThe electrical threadGreg picks it up there and emails SCE at CICORR@sce.com.
